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Than they faced yesterday. if they just chilled out they would have been fight. >> steve schmidt let's get you in on the craven nature of this as a political issue. as holland just said, there were seven players by tend of the season exercising their first amendment rights. president of the united states called him sons of bitchs. republicans caved paul ryan style, faster than it takes me to sneeze. where are we that the president can shut down an entire sport with his bullying? >> what we saw today is the desecration of american ideas and values by a combination of donald trump, roger goodell...

Conspiracy, this is the hallmark of autocratic leadership back to the beginning of time. this is not normal in a democratic republic like the united states. and it should be opposed. >> elise, let me ask you to pick up on steve's theme. you've got a situation now where cabinet secretaries when they're on capitol hill and under oath have a hard time towing the line. this was pompeo earlier today. let's watch. >> do you believe there is a criminal deep state at the state department? >> i don't -- i haven't seen comments from the president. i don't believe there is a deep state at the state depar...

Say, give the player something. you don't have to do it during the national anthem. maybe the first play of the game and you have more attention because who watches the national anthem? but if they want because who watches the national anthem? if they want compliance from the players, why should they make money of to of this. they are not shutting down the concession. shut down the concessions and have people stand at attention. but they are uncomfortable with it. it's going to rear its head once again when the season starts. >> weern discussing this when the president started targeting player...

And then they think that 45 say it's november or october, midterm elections are coming and 45 is in a red state and he's free wheeling from the podium as he always does and he says those s.o.b.s staying in the locker room, lock the door. call them an animal or what have you. now what does he expect the players to do and what are the owners going to do then? >> tell me about the president playing to the owner's fear of embracing these issues? the nba doesn't have these issues. they certainly seem -- we've led with coach kerr basically calling this idiotic, an idiotic policy. >> i can agree with...

Existence of a counter intelligence investigation into russia. it came because the president's campaign aides were in the crosshairs. that ignited the same thing in the president as it always does. can you just speak to how the justice department, how the fbi has to constantly adjust and sort of change norms to deal with the president's thin skin and legal concerns? >> yeah, i think we all would have liked to have been a fly on the wall as they went through the agonizing decision, do we do this briefing, do we do it in a singular nature to just republicans, do we insist on doing it to both dem...