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Think, being very effective. >> last thought, ten seconds, cynthia. will joe biden have some music as well as lyrics tomorrow night? >> i think he will. i mean, i think, let's hope he doesn't get two improvsational, but i think joe biden likes politics too and enjoys the music and enjoys a good political brawl. >> okay. let joe be joe, i say. bring it on. talk about grandpa finnegan, the works. talk about scranton 30 times, it doesn't bother me. anyway, thank you, cynthia turk and eugene robinson. when we return, let me finish whether president obama is better with a good debate performance ...

You said about the music of politics. president obama understands music, but it's a different kind of music. his is more like classical music. and bill clinton is more like jazz, to me. >> it's honky tonk. >> more spontaneous, improvsational. you know, obama, you've got beethoven, right? it's sort of profound and soaring in terms of the rhetoric, but it's not improvsational, it's is not quick the way clinton is. >> it's also, i think, the use of wit and sarcasm, delivered with a smile. churchill said, i like a man who grins when he fights. bill clinton grins when he fights. >> yes, he does. an...

You said about the music of politics. president obama understands music, but it's a different kind of music. his is more like classical music. and bill clinton is more like jazz, to me. >> it's honky tonk. >> more spontaneous, improvsational. you know, obama, you've got beethoven, right? it's sort of profound and soaring in terms of the rhetoric, but it's not improvsational, it's is not quick the way clinton is. >> it's also, i think, the use of wit and sarcasm, delivered with a smile. churchill said, i like a man who grins when he fights. bill clinton grins when he fights. >> yes, he does. an...