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The text messages revealed was entirely accurate, and his answer is, you sound like you're working for the dnc. that was his response to judy wood rough on pbs the other day when she asked him a difficult question. at this point, if mike pompeo said two plus two is five and you say, no, two plus two is four, he would say, sounds like you're working for the dnc. that's what happens when you're behind the eight ball when the sort of bottom is falling out on a series of actions that you can't defend and honest people ask you about them. >> how did pompeo get himself into this situation, natasha? ...

Week. they put out this document with all of the ideas and questions they wanted to pose, again, coming from actual educators right now within the state. the document, which i have, it's legitimately troubling and insane. at one point they go, trying to look at the power structure and who is using this to oppress, which i assume math is being used to oppressed by white cisgendered christian heterosexual males. who gets to say if an answer is right? well, it's math but we know for example, two plus two is four and not five and if you call them out apparently according to these guidelines you mi...

Believed true by the speaker or writer. it doesn't matter. they're still saying the wrong thing. it is a lie or a misrepresentation of the truth. >> there are lots of words for it. prevarication. >> a lie's a lie all day long. >> that's exactly right. >> for these folks to say the president doesn't lie or you're maybe misunderstanding how he's communicating. come on. that's rich, but -- >> there is a very simple test for it. is it an excuse that they would offer to their political opponent? if they would say the same thing about their political opponent then they're fine saying it about this p...

Life. per yes, ma'am webster, okay? an assertion of something known by the speaker or believer p writer to be untrue with the intent to deceive. okay. so with the intent. here is "b." an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true by the speaker or writer. it doesn't matter. they're still saying the wrong thing. it is a lie or a misrepresentation of the truth. >> there are lots of words for it. >> a lie's a lie all day long. >> that's exactly right. >> for these folks to say the president doesn't lie or you're maybe misunderstanding how he's communicating. come on. that...

Ended up losing the football game. so i think that you've got to remember that elections are about adding voters. two plus two is four and you need to get to five. so you have to keep that in mind when you're looking at a state where we have open primaries, and everybody can participate. >> let me ask you this, trav. what is the message? there is the game message you're talking about getting more people motivated to come out. from an issues perspective, are there overarches things that south carolina democrats want to hear from these candidates? >> there is no question we are feeling the pain ...