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>> the other thing he has said is he doesn't want to orchestrate to the enemy what his plans are. i do believe that behind the scenes he is taking action on this. >> let me just ask you so when he said that he believed vladimir putin, when putin said to his face, oh, no, i didn't meddle, you think that's a double secret covert operation mind meld? >> i think it could be part of a diplomatic two-step where you kind of agree with somebody public but behind the back, you say go after them and break this. >> okay. jack, but if that's true, how come he then backtracked after there was outrage about...

Money that makes early visits with mr. trump following up with appearances to draw large crowds to stoke voter enthusiasm. the person called it a two-step. if you are at the white house, you can plan a two-step or whatever you want if you are in the white house. you have to get an invitation. the vice president will be welcome almost everywhere. what about the president? >> anecdotally, when you talk to the republicans who announced retirement, it's hard to overstate how deeply exasperated they are with congress's function and others have covered congress a few years longer. you have not seen ...

>> first of all, is it possible to go any higher than number one on amazon if you're going to write a book? it's incredible. i do think both of these things can be true. i think there are very significant journalistic critiques that you can throw at this book, but i also think it rings true truth about this is absolutely valid. and part of it is what michael wolff has said and will say again i'm sure is this is exactly how people around him or many people around him at the white house, certainly republicans on the hill, speak privately. now, if you were to ask probably i would say 80% of elect...

Reducing the money the federal government has to do things. other programs, they know too popular to do it on their own, two-step, first create a larger deficit by overall tax reduction, and say they can't afford the programs. >> let me ask you, do you think this is pay back for the states? if you enumerate them, massachusetts, your state, new york, connecticut, new jersey, pennsylvania, certainly california their states that -- not pennsylvania, all those other states, the east and west voted against him for president. is this the penalty box, is this getting even? >> that's part of it, but f...

What they will do is go after medicare and medicaid. it is already signaled in their budget proposal. they're going to take a trillion dollars out of medicaid, 60, 70% of which goes to seniors in nursing homes, and they're going to cut medicare by $500 billion. that's their plan. it's a two-step. >> that kind of information i'm sure sending a chill down the spines of many that are listening right now. i want to get to the situation, the tragedy in niger a few weeks ago. new questions surrounding the death of sergeant la david johnson killed in action with three other american soldiers, happene...