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States congress, and the republicans in congress unfortunately are going along with that and trying to already undermine his testimony and cast doubt on it and so forth. look, this is taking place in the broader context of the shutdown of the government of the united states. so the president, rather than working to reopen the government of the united states, as we are demanding, as we are passing legislation every day to do, instead is caught up in this investigation. and it's starting -- in my mind, it's really starting to corroborate those books and articles which are saying that this is a p...

Trying to derail michael cohen's testimony before the united states congress, and the republicans in congress unfortunately are going along with that and trying to already undermine his testimony and cast doubt on it and so forth. look, this is taking place in the broader context of the shutdown of the government of the united states. so the president, rather than working to reopen the government of the united states, as we are demanding, as we are passing legislation every day to do, instead is caught up in this investigation. and it's starting -- in my mind, it's really starting to corrobora...

I think obstruction of justice was the very first impeachment article brought against him. obstruction of justice and perjury to congress are right there in the heart of impeachment territory. there is no doubt about that. >> as you look at this, then, and as you point out, if these claims are true, if this reporting is true, what kind of evidence would you need to see to make that judgment? >> well, we want to hear from everybody who was involved in it, everybody who was involved allegedly in the conspiracy to suppress the story of the president's ongoing business relationship with russia. yo...

Talked very soothingly about better relations with israel, and i think that mattered a great deal to the white house. in fact, they have not delivered on that. and so we, you know, the crown prince, he was able to rise and consolidate his power in saudi arabia, partly because he had the blessings of the trump administration, and he used that power that he has achieved in saudi arabia to render the region less stable, to embark on this absurd campaign against corruption when here is a guy who bought a $300 million castle and a $500 million yacht. he didn't do that on his salary. >> remember, al...

>> he knew how to talk to us. he knew how to push our buttons. >> did a publicity tour in this country. >> that's right, yeah. and so many american tycoons were standing by there. next week there is a big conference in saudi arabia where everybody was supposed to go and applaud him further. people are dropping out like mad. i hope that no more american or european business executives go to that conference and continue that applause. it's time to reexamine our relations. i think that nato countries should coordinate and pull out their ambassadors and we should suspend arms sales to saudi arabia...