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discussions as they're described with some of his top allies. let's discuss now more with cnn, senior political commentator, former special advisor to president obama, van jones. and cnn legal commentator and former for trump white house lawyer jim scholtz, van guys, good morning. let me start with you first van. what do you think biden needs to do first and foremost, in this debate? >> well, i mean, if you're joe biden, you've got a hill to climb here the reality is he is behind in most polls. the momentum is not with him yet. and so i think you've got to reassure the american peopl...

Representing, so i think we'll see him make that case. >> he had a standout moment. when hillary clinton was on the stage, he was at a rally and said, i don't have jlo. i don't have jay-z. i have you. >> i think we saw on the primary as well as that particular night, he was unable to get a-list stars. he didn't need them and can't get d-list stars but i tell you what, it's still funny. most americans know they follow him on twitter. how powerful celebrities are, they're not interested. i think it's fun thny. >> he could show up with the best bluegrass band or from south carolina, jersey style ...

Them. >> it did sound like that. but pence said he is on the team and tonight's performance is enough to keep him on the team. you don't want a whole lot of discord on the team. >> there is no way of getting off it, is there? >> i don't think so. especially not after tonight. even if he wanted to, i think that he probably does feel a responsibility to house candidates and to senate candidates who in large measure are coming to look to him to help him out. >> i know about a wager. i won't say i'm involved in it but someone i know and trust politically says he doesn't think trump will get more t...