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Serious brinkmanship. >> yeah. >> and there clearly are discussions going on, and the speaker of the house, john boehner, has been through this process before. he's a good negotiator a thoughtful guy. the president, if joe biden is in involved correctly i think he wants to come to a solution. i think they'll work it out. >> former senator john sununu, good to have you here. more of "daily rundown" just ahead. follow us anytime on twitter at chuck tot and savannah guthrie. >> isn't that what they do? >> we don't have to ask. they'll do it anyway. >> roses. >> lovely people from pennsylvania...