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Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20191120 00:00:00

Giuliani. Mr. Giuliani said they thought ukraine should make a statement about Fighting Corruption and mr. Yermac provided me a draft statement and i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. Giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to President Trump and solve this problem that i had observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. The problem being that hes getting bad set of information. A Statement Like this could potentially correct that. So was mr. Giuliani satisfied with this statement . No, he was not. Why not . He believed it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, it would not mean anything. So in fact mr. Giuliani wanted a statement that Referenced Burisma and 2016 elections explicitly. One that would benefit essentially President Trump. Mr. Ambassador, heres the text you sent to the ukrainian official august 13th. You said hey andrey good

Transcripts for MSNBC Hardball With Chris Matthews 20191120 00:01:00

essentially president trump. mr. ambassador, here s the text you sent to the ukrainian official august 13th. you said hey andrey good talking, following are the two items. those two items were specific reference to burisma and the 2016 election. that is correct. did he take those two items to you, sir? as you see i just had a conversation to describe to him the conversation we d just had with mr. giuliani. mr. giuliani said that it would need to include these things for it to be convincing to him. i put them in so we understood what he was talking about and i shared it with andrey to say this is what he was talking about. and you included them in the

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