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Trump, 32 biden, 30 undecided. so there's that big chunk of the country that maybe could go in either direction. rachel: it will be interesting to see, will the fatigue that you talk about work against donald trump or will as we even move in, you did that story on covid mandates coming back, we have wonder what that's about as well, maybe at some point people go wow, there is this deep state, the system, the man if you will, that's trying to control things and as you said, donald trump is sort of this avatar, maybe they're going to vote for the one person with all his flaws you may take and le...

American people that we're not talking about. we're talking about a former president who has been indicted multiple times. why will the republican party not take back its party? >> you just said -- you just said it's all donald trump all the time. why won't these folks talk about donald trump? well, which is it? desantis has rolled out an economic program, he's rolled out an effort for the military, the only veteran running for president. there's a lot of credibility there. these are things that matter at the national level. >> i want to show our viewers something new from cbs news this mornin...

>> let me parse one session because we want to show viewers from cbs news that goes to the point you're making which is a national poll that shows 62% of the republican party is with donald trump. that's why. >> yeah, and i don't buy that. we're knocking doors, over a million and a half doors with the super pac. the undecided is very, very high and in new hampshire and in iowa, over half of republicans don't want donald trump to be the next nominee. >> i talked to reporters this weekend who were at the iowa state fair and people going up and taking pictures with donald trump and this is the se...

Direction with people like him around i'm open-minded. >> brian: that's great. now let's talk to you, kevin, what were you looking for in a candidate? did you walk into the fair undecided and did anything change? >> pretty open to any candidate that is really putting forth conservative values, family, home, life, protect guilty unborn. yeah. those are really essential. the economy. defense. but pence really stood out. the speech that we heard when he was heckled about how he conducted himself with the certification of the votes. and he mentioned that he was remember vanity of the constitution ...

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