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Don't put it in with everything else, and you know, all the wise people in washington and the pundits saying, well, we've got to fix these entitlements, because they always mean social security and medicare. >> fascinating stuff. if the debate happens in those terms, i don't know that we're going to end up in a different place, but it would be a much more sensible debate. >> we will end up in a different place, because the public overwhelmingly says -- if you poll, should we fix entitlements or should we reform the entitlement system, people will say, yes. if you say, should we cut social secu...

Generational warfare. but how are we going to do this? let's have the debate about social security itself. don't put it in with everything else, and you know, all the wise people in washington and the pundits saying, well, we've got to fix these entitlements, because they always mean social security and medicare. >> fascinating stuff. if the debate happens in those terms, i don't know that we're going to end up in a different place, but it would be a much more sensible debate. >> we will end up in a different place, because the public overwhelmingly says -- if you poll, should we fix entitleme...

But how are we going to do this? let's have the debate about social security itself. don't put it in with everything else, and you know, all the wise people in washington and the pundits saying, well, we've got to fix these entitlements, because they always mean social security and medicare. >> fascinating stuff. if the debate happens in those terms, i don't know that we're going to end up in a different place, but it would be a much more sensible debate. >> we will end up in a different place, because the public overwhelmingly says -- if you poll, should we fix entitlements or should we refor...