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Case? >> i think he can. this is where this story line merges with the story line around this memo and why is the nunes memo so important to republicans, so important to the president, so important to the white house? because it is a way of undermining mueller's credibility, trying to portray mueller and everyone associated with the investigation as bias and out to get trump and having something to hide. you'll start to see the president invoking the memo in this context. if he's asked about why he might have he luck answer the to talk to mueller on mueller's terms, he'll say it's not fair. it...

Memo. the president clearly believes he's got the political mojo at this point. so right? host of mornings on the mall and juan williams. good to see you both tonight. >> nice to see you, shannon. >> shannon: we've heard from the democrats saying this is all about undermining mueller. i thought it was interesting that trey gowdy saw all the underlying intelligence said this, as i have repeatedly said i also remain 100% confident in special counsel robert mueller. the contents of this memo do not in any way discredit his investigation. juan are these claims about being discrediting just smoke? ...

Closing with the release of the memo. the president clearly believes he's got the political mojo at this point. so right? host of mornings on the mall and juan williams. good to see you both tonight. >> nice to see you, shannon. >> shannon: we've heard from the democrats saying this is all about undermining mueller. i thought it was interesting that trey gowdy saw all the underlying intelligence said this, as i have repeatedly said i also remain 100% confident in special counsel robert mueller. the contents of this memo do not in any way discredit his investigation. juan are these claims about...

Messages. the guy who wrote them was removed by mueller as soon as he learned about this in the summer. and a lot of this is part of undermining mueller's investigation, making it look like it's just a partisan witch hunt so that whenever he comes up with can be easily dismissed. >> bret: you don't have concerns about the substance? >> yes, i do but the reason that a lot of republicans are harping on this is because they want to make sure that when mueller finally does finish his report that they can say this was just part of it. as a long-term strategy, not a good idea to undermine the depart...

To have an administration -- this is -- the justice department is trump's justice department, and therefore, it's his fbi, and he's underwriting their credibility. and had ae's conducting it like political campaign. he's now saying he has no intention of firing mueller, but he's saying that because he knows that there's no public opinion that would support that. so what he's trying do is undermine the fbi, and therefore, mueller, so he can get at this idea of undermining mueller, either by firing him or somehow limiting what he's able to do in his investigation. so, that's the process that the...