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Big tent that wasn't already there. i think that that's really true. you can, you know, go back to barry goldwater when you start excavating the stuff of where were the first strands of trumpism that we see. i start with pat buchanan in 1992, and i spent a lot of time talking to pat. what you see there when you start excavating this is there was always that element of us versus them, that racial grievance especially, because what people forget, what i describe here, is pat buchanan's '92 campaign wasn't all about immigration and trade and building the fence on the border. he got into the race ...

Basis, they said if there's 80 percent vaccination rates then those schools can lift the mandates. so the question -- remember, lucy is a doctor. i am not a doctor. i listen to the doctors in terms of what we should do, but the bottom line is at the same exact time that this is going on you have lots of parents who are still afraid. you have lots of people who are still afraid because we've just gone through omicron. that's why i think it is important to have a science-based metric that people can plan for it. that's what it seems like governor murphy has done. i think that's what governor hoc...

Looney than me, and for him though think that, you know. >> yes, we have seen him over the course of his career make slipups on that. he did it on abortion but he changed his tune and people were forgiving of it but i think this is fundamentally different. to put a finer point on that. >> put a fine point on the fine point. >> toward the end of the book, it is a trump pollster, tony fabricio, who runs a survey every decade or so where exactly the republican party electorate is. in 1997 he had something like 5 percent to 10% of the electorate calling themselves progressives. that's unthinkable ...

To children in the larger population, that it doesn't spread easily in schools, that so many teachers have been vaccinated or at least had the opportunity to be vaccinated, now kids have the chance to be vaccinated. so at what point do we just say, okay, it is time to get rid of the masks? isn't there enough science available already? >> that's why i'm saying if we -- you know, we believe in no off ramp. i asked dr. cardona and dr. wilensky to start planning for an off ramp in november pre-omicron. then you had the omicron surge and then the masks were back on and then the k95 masks were back ...

Post" breaking news headlines on my push notifications. the first one, swear to god, i wake up at 2:30 in the morning. >> uh-oh. >> bleary eyed. i look at my phone, "new york post", david lee roth announces retirement. i was like, sweet jesus. >> what? >> this is the push notification i was born for. >> wow. >> these people have the best push notifications. elderly nun sentenced for gambling away elementary school funds. >> not good. >> not funny but it is a "new york post" push notification. >> okay. >> i like this one right here. 18 people rescued from ice floe on lake eerie. they are all gr...