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Having about president trump's administration. and we're expanding it to other countries. it is not just about what their views are. whether or not they're anti-semitic or not. bits the fact these have been two of his favorite targets lately. and going into 2020, he's said so. he's destroying to make them face of the democratic party so as to tarnish the democratic party as being tarnished and unelectable. >> and others are seeing this power being carried out in different countries and couldn't nenl ninths, as we look at this, the question might be, what might be next? what is the big worry? o...

Instead of donald trump, rahm emmanuel said we've seen this movie before. democrats need to wake up. i would not treat the obama years as something to be air brushed out of history. he wasn't the only one. it's just an interesting strategy. and not sure that it doesn't do more harm. >> it may end up rendering a nominee who's unelectable. and listen. the issues that drive this, immigration, all this talk about medicare for all and distinguishing it from the affordable care act. we really haven't seen yet what we're going to get in the fall. which is going to be elizabeth warren and joe biden on...

Want to be as a country. one side, there donald trump side is saying it's broken and not working because of those people. and the democrats are saying it is broken because everything has gone to the 1%. how do you divide that among the candidates and their policies, great. that's a debate. i understand that. but fundamentally that's the vision of america they need to put forward that is inclusive and forward leaning and look ahead and that's part of what biden's challenge is going to be how is he not the establishment candidate on stage? >> if i am pete buttigieg or something and i turn to bid...

Universal health care, single payer insurance. >> the debate is about who we want to be as a country. one side, there donald trump side is saying it's broken and not working because of those people. and the democrats are saying it is broken because everything has gone to the 1%. how do you divide that among the candidates and their policies, great. that's a debate. i understand that. but fundamentally that's the vision of america they need to put forward that is inclusive and forward leaning and look ahead and that's part of what biden's challenge is going to be how is he not the establishment...

Companies. no other country tolerates. that. we shouldn't as well. >> medicare for all is something that helps people remember that you identify as a democratic socialist, you gave an entire speech on this, but that is a point of division between you and many others in the field, including governor hickenlooper who was just sitting here with my colleagues, but who also said this at the california state convention. take a look. >> if we want to beat donald trump and achieve big progressive goals, socialism is not the answer. i was reelected -- >> so how do you respond to governor hickenlooper? ...