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of state hillary clinton and president obama. i remember when the president, now president, he said she's likable enough. that was considered ungentlemanly. this campaign, that would be the morning start er. they don't even say anything remotely that nice. >> when clinton had the outburst in ohio when she said shame on you, that was considered a moment of emotional outburst. they talked about how bitter the c campaign is getting. she didn't call him a liar or unfit for office. nobody taunted or belittled. >> another reason is -- >> why are they doing it? >> another reason is in theory, there's not any id logical differences. because they claim to agree on the same agenda, then it becomes

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