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Shall, that's not true? >> that's completely false. they were trying to set up after the civil war a new standard of citizenship for the united states. not just as it was before the war, where each state kind of declared who was going to be a citizen. the civil war created this sense of a nation, unified nation. >> were some arguing, look, you're demogogging against democrats? >> absolutely. the republican majority wanted to get race out of the definition of citizenship. they felt this was a legacy of slavery to limit citizenship to one race or another race. they wanted to go to this universal...

Citizen. the civil war created this sense of a nation, unified nation. >> were some arguing, look, you're demogogging against democrats? >> absolutely. the republican majority wanted to get race out of the definition of citizenship. they felt this was a legacy of slavery to limit citizenship to one race or another race. they wanted to go to this universalistic notion of who could be an american. to be an american -- this is true today, i believe. to be an american is not to be a member of a particular race, of a particular people, of a particular religion. it's to accept the principles of, you...