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Star who posted on insta -- doesn't she have a border crisis to work on? another can you name two things she has done to make you proud of her? pete. >> i can't. i won't try. she had a champagne brunch with other ladies at the white house guarded by the secret service and a big old wall that got bigger recently. they invested in it. while the people on the southern border. it's an invasion, a full-on invasion. no idea who these people are, what their intent is. the amount of people coming across on the terror watch list is growing by the year. we know only the ones we intercept, not the gotawa...

And those are the ones we know. now, you have the known gotaways, you have the unknown gotaways. and these are people that evade -- the cartels are very sophisticated. the drones and surveillance that they're using, they know where the border patrol is and is not. and so the really bad guys are going where the border patrol is not. they don't want to give themselves up, put their hands up and claim asylum. they want to evade, get back to the country, sell drugs, traffic human beings. that's their goal. we have to put a stop to them. >> harris: it is to the tune of billions of dollars. it is a ...

Build back better unless catch and release ends, and they won't do it. maria: well, i just, i find that extraordinary. i think you make such an important point, and i'm going to focus on these two senators and what they're doing from here on out because we have seen nothing up until now. and texas, as you mentioned, doesn't even have that kind of leverage that you actually see the leverage that they have in arizona. >> right. maria: what do you make of where we are? we've got 600,000 gotaways this fiscal year, stephen. two million people haven't been apprehended and, by the way, it could be ma...

Build back better unless catch and release ends, and they won't do it. maria: well, i just, i find that extraordinary. i think you make such an important point, and i'm going to focus on these two senators and what they're doing from here on out because we have seen nothing up until now. and texas, as you mentioned, doesn't even have that kind of leverage that you actually see the leverage that they have in arizona. >> right. maria: what do you make of where we are? we've got 600,000 gotaways this fiscal year, stephen. two million people haven't been apprehended and, by the way, it could be ma...