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Smuggin smuggin smugglin smugglings. they stopped 323 metric tons of cocaine in fiscal year '17. those numbers continue to rise and especially when it comes to cocaine addictions, that's something they see a lot from some of the most sophisticated cartel and drug trafficking organizations some of the less sophisticated ones are coming through the border and the vast majority of that we know it is coming through legal ports of entry, not where the wall would be. it is not just about people who are not getting paid, it is not just about moral, it is actually coming into really conflicting with t...

Where it is sanctioned by all of the processes that are apart of it. it shows there is active negotiation happening among members both on the house side and the senate side. that's a good sign because it means there is sort of a kinetic energy for everyone wanting to get it resolved. >> julia, the great inconsistency here is that the president has shut down the government because he wants border security specifically a wall. the people that are in charge of border security are not getting paid. you have read the agent association report. it is remarkable that leadership or at least union leade...

He suggested just three years of protection, we think it ought to be permanent and a path of citizenship so that the offer he made was totally unacceptable and saying simply that he'll try to correct partially a crisis that the president of the united states created. >> it was not official at dhs. let me ask you about something you said last night on fox. you said physical barriers are apart of the solution. i think it depends on what a wall is used for whether it is moral or immoral. if it is protecting people, it is moral or if it is imprisoning people, it is immoral. explain tho explain tha...

That. >> you are not going to answer that. >> why not? because i think there are some values to the wall. maybe not the way they are doing it but there are. >> what happens if the fbi, these agents continue to miss paychecks, how many paychecks will it take before there is a breaking point. what will that breaking point looks like? >> i remember one paycheck would have been enough. a lot of the fbi people are living paycheck to paycheck. >> you don't make a lot of money. when you are in a high cost living area like new york, you don't have a lot of money. you lose a paycheck and you don't have...

Secondly, experts don't believe that. i usually quote and i won't quote them all here. seven or eight republican senators from border state who says the wall is not the answer. they said technology is the answer and enhance personnel is the answer. perhaps the judges -- >> i think you said physical barriers are apart of the solution. >> is there anything that the president can offer to democrats that'll get you to offer some funding for ra wall or just 100 non-starter? >> i think as i said this morning and if there is a negotiation, let's open up government and get us out of this environment t...