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Issues, legality of this. what this would take is for the administration, the white house, i guess the general counsel to say, what is and what is not legal for the military to do. they would are to provide them the authority. even without that authority, u.s. cyber command, the administration can go to cyber com and say, give us options. they would present options. then the white house and president biden could make the decision whether he wants to give them the authority to act. what's really different and new here is this would be the u.s. military going after criminals as opposed to going ...

Believes they are to our national security. courtney kube joins me now. when you think the conventional warfare, they have targets. they have a potential list of targets if we went to war with iran. is this something that they have mapped out over the years and they are just now thinking about using it? are they beginning the mapping out process? >> reporter: we now know -- this comes from some reporting from our colleague that in 2019 the nsa started spying on some of the cyber criminals to try to determine who potential targets would be. not just potential targets for offensive operations bu...

Affordable. now, going back to what was just previously said, an attack on critical infrastructure in this country, and the pipeline is critical infrastructure, warrants a defensive and offensive response, not just by the intelligence community, by the department of defense, u.s. cyber command. so the administration's statement along those lines yesterday was perfectly appropriate. that's the stakes are high when we have to deal with cyber attacks on critical infrastructure in this country. >> is part of this, though, so many of these cyber attacks seem to come from one country in particular, ...

Cyber command for 0 an offense ive action to go after the networks. ken was told the nsa since 2019 spying on the criminal groups and trying to gain information about them that they can use for potential future actions, potential offensive actions. this is the scope. how the magnitude of these hacks. jbs, colonial pipeline, after fuel supply with a real impact on the fuel here in the east coast. the jbs hack, the potential for going after food supply hire in the united states. the biden administration is taking the hacks seriously and considering these -- giving cyber command new authorities t...

Networks. generally handled by the fbi but in the past there's very rarely any kind of adjudication or anyone held liable for them because the u.s. just doesn't have jurisdiction to go after the groups that are harbored in russia. they have safe haven in russia. so that's where things are starting to change. our colleague is told that now the administration is considering using the u.s. military, u.s. cyber command for a potential offensive action in the cases. that would mean cyber com has the ability to track, to detect, to find out about these hacks both before and during and after they occ...