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She wanted more. they came out somewhere in between on the heavier side with 30,000. but he really looks dovish compared to her on this issue. >> it's interesting you say that because some people have highlighted him as a noninterventionalist. that he will not -- no -- troops at the very last point would we send in. he actually wanted to hold back when it came to getting in to osama bin laden's raid. right? >> yes, absolutely. he is military -- military option is a last resort. we use diplomacy, we use soft power, we use smart power. we only bring in military force when we absolutely have exha...

>> 1259, newark tower. winds near 509. clear to land. use caution, drone reported six miles final 200 off to the right side. do have an occasional primary target in that general vicinity. >> okay. clear to land on the right. watch for drone. >> drones aren't allowed to fly within five miles of an airport and not above 400 feet. anyone found in violation of those rules could be fined $25,000 and face criminal charges. thomas, at this point we are not aware of anyone actually being prosecuted for this. so very difficult to locate. those drone operators, they're really isn't a whole lot of teeth ...

Kurds. so it is a very complex dynamic here. you have three turkey really launching a war on three different fronts. the u.s. wants it to focus on the fight against isis but turkey is including in its fight against isis the fight against this very fringe left wing group that you barely hear about until we heard about them today. and the kurds. >> richard engel right in the middle of it, what a difficult, complicated situation. thank you, richard. here at home, more drone scares for a commercial american pilot sunday. four pilots flying near newark airport reported seeing drones. none of the ...

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>> use caution. occupants are armed. >> reporter: while other officers on the radio report seeing no weapons. >> he does not have a gun in his hands. >> reporter: neither victim in the car had a gun but defense attorneys say officer brelo had no way of knowing that at the time. telling the court he wasn't trying to be rambo, he was just trying to survive. >> let's talk more about what next here. i'm joined by walter madison, who represents the tamir rice family out of cleveland. that's the 12-year-old young man who police thought was holding a real gun. turned out to be a toy gun. he was shot ...