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And just to be clear, i mean, not everything was all that interesting. there was plenty of stuff that came over through some of these foia requests that was your standard anti-harassment, anti-realuation training that anybody in -- retaliation training that that anybody would be familiar with. but there was also plenty that i think would be news to taxpayers who are footing the bill. paul: and i guess the agencies don't develop this internally, they hire out contractors to bring this stuff in and do the training, is that your understanding? >> well, it's a little bit of both. what the journal ...

Nation's veterans. it seems for far too long on the campaign trail, veterans were disregarded, forgotten about. when we would get elected to office, their issues would not always rise and get center stage, but we were able to pass veterans accountability measures. we were able to get people fired at the v.a. that were not doing their job. what a great idea that would be to extend to continue to nourish. president trump oriented our trail, to put american people first. not special interests here at home. president trump knew we had to confront china, that china had already engaged in a trade wa...

Door after hearing crying. that roommate told police she saw a man dressed in black and wearing a mask. he walked past her as she hurriedly locked her bedroom door. he left the building. police say that man was bryan kohberger. bret? >> bret: jonathan hunt. thank you. we're heading back to the house floor. florida congressman matt gaetz is making his own nominating speech. we don't know for whom yet. let's listen in. >> it seemed for far too long on the campaign trail veterans were disregarded, forgotten about. when we would get elected to office, their issues would not always rise and get cen...

Congress to fund the government, you've got every advocacy inside the beltway and out who are pushing for something of theirs to be put into this, their voice to be heard -- >> sure. rich: do you feel like policymakers at this time of year were listening to you? >> yeah. well, you know, in the last 20 the years the v.a.'s budget has increased from, i think, $45 billion in 2001 to about $338 billion in the most recent appropriations bill, so congress, you know, is generally very supportive of veterans and veteran policy issues. you know, my contention though is that suicide prevention needs to ...

Directly at v.a. and then making it their number one overall priority, not just their clinical priority. so that's what we're talking about with members of congress, with staff at the v.a. going into the 118th. rich: changing culture is probably more difficult than actually getting funding in the federal government. >> absolutely. rich: how does that culture, mine, you talked about a more holistic approach, but what else would you like to see the v.a. do, and do you think you can move bureaucracy which is one of the most difficult things to do in this city? >> yeah, it's certainly not an easy ...