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Accepting a resignation or allowing him to continue the problem even though there's only a few years left in this administration. >> reporter: i think if you look at what happened with hhs secretary kathleen sebelius, that could be illustrated, could give us a hint as to how the administration could handle this. they left secretary sebelius in place even as that disaster rouse rollout of healthcare.gov was on going. there were many, many problems with that. they kept her in place so she could be there to fix the problems. once the system looked like it was on track, when they met and surpassed...

Few minutes ago in this public statement. he will have his plan to offer on how he intends to fix the problems. will that be enough for the president? will that be enough for the white house, which certainly is under growing political fire? shinseki still very much someone who wants to keep his head down, look at the situation very detail orientated, very much task orientated. that's been his management style throughout his career. he does not particularly like the public eye. he doesn't like to be someone out there glad handing around. he has come under criticism since his army days for havin...

Quote, unlike the va, no one on the exchanges is buying insurance from the government. the government doesn't employ doctors or decide how much they'll get paid or require them to accept any of the insurance plans sold through the exchanges. obamacare is not a health care system. the va is. so why do those on the right pretend the va problems have to do or are similar in some way to the health care law, goldie? >> you know, reverend sharpton, the fact of the matter is the issues happening today with the va have existed for a decade or even more. when veterans like myself were denied care or de...

Claims had incorrect documentation and you say nothing about this? >> no, we would rather waste $6.7 billion. >> i don't know get it. >> i wish i could say there is a logic at work. >> what do you think happens with obamacare coming into play? >> this problem. obamacare. and now the va problems. we cannot run our simple programs to help the veterans and the elderly. >> that would seem to suggest a basic lack of trust in your government to do something effective. >> people are concerned/worried, what i see in my e-mail and twitter about the spending and

Vets dying while waiting for health care, almost as outrageous is the claim that he heard about the va problems from listening to the news. watch. >> i heard on the news. >> i first learned about it from the same news reports that i think most people learned about this. >> when did the president find out about the department of justices subpoenas for the associated press. >> he found out about the news reports yesterday. >> when was the president first made aware of these problems? >> we learned about them through the reports. >> all right, juan, am i supposed to believe that the leader of the...