vets dying while waiting for health care, almost as outrageous is the claim that he heard about the va problems from listening to the news. watch. >> i heard on the news. >> i first learned about it from the same news reports that i think most people learned about this. >> when did the president find out about the department of justices subpoenas for the associated press. >> he found out about the news reports yesterday. >> when was the president first made aware of these problems? >> we learned about them through the reports. >> all right, juan, am i supposed to believe that the leader of the free world, the most powerful man on the planet is finding out about all of these things because he's watching fox or whatever channel he watches. >> yeah, i hope he's watching fox. how is he supposed to know? >> how is he supposed to know? >> wait. hold on. >> how is he supposed to know? >> how did president bush learn