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That really speaks to very very deep american values as well as interests. >> let's just talk about where that vacuum hits though. there's no question that it's a much worse world order if no one is providing that leadership and the americans are best situated to do so. but the fact of the matter is that isis is a much greater threat in the region, a much greater threat to europe than the united states. the americans are the ones with the energy production they're less interested in these things. the americans are not being affected by the refugee crisis in a way that the turks the jordanians ...

That really speaks to very, very deep american values as well as interests. >> let's just talk about where that vacuum hits, though. there's no question that it's a much worse world order if no one is providing that leadership and the americans are best situated to do so. but the fact of the matter is that isis is a much greater threat in the region, a much greater threat to europe than the united states. the americans are the ones with the energy production, they're less interested in these things. the americans are not being affected by the refugee crisis in a way that the turks, the jordani...