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People in the cia who work on very particular parts of the world, political economy in myanmar. they want to get the political economy in myanmar right. they want to do good analysis -- >> i was a chapel hill grad, and i -- >> and then you have these value systems that trump is up against that he doesn't fathom. he doesn't understand selfless service. he doesn't know what that is. >> he can't even pretend not to be about himself and he can't even fake it. that really comes off to people who actually went in with a servicemen tal tea. >> it's not that he is just going after what he calls enemie...

Very particular parts of the world, political economy in myanmar. they want to get the political economy in myanmar right. >> debate club. >> and then you have these value systems that trump is up against that he doesn't fathom. he doesn't understand selfless service. he doesn't know what that is. >> he can't even fake it. and that comes, that comes off to people who actually went in with a service mentality. >> he is going after some people, not just going after his so-called enemies or what he calls enemies of the people. he is going after people who might testify against them. people involv...

Supremacy as sort of an esoteric value system, or spending time focusing on language, when we really need to look at that connection between language, representation, value systems, and the way that policy and legislation and racist violent acts play out. and so this is -- there's that space between -- >> right. >> there's a slippage in how we're using these terms. we need to be clear on that. >> right. >> and i think we're seeing that, and it plays out in the ways that whether we're talking about white nationalists or the protesters, envision themselves. >> right. and the way that you might p...

Specifically this. is a plan that shows the phaseout. conservatives want to shrink the coverage. moderates want the kovrng. this obviously affects a lot of people. is there any flex bltd heibilit for middle ground. >> you have people who would like to see this bill look as different from the affordable care act as possible but like you said we have had this blue state that was devastated and saw the need for medicaid increase. look at the beak for more favorably and so they're coming from such different value systems and world views in terms of what their constituents desire most when it comes...

Iceland and watching my facebook feed, one half giddy over donald trump and one in deep depression. why don't i retrace my steps and see the world through their eyes. because ultimately we the people have to figure out if we want this experiment going . so many different ideas and value systems that come together. >> were you surprised with what you heard? >> what i was surprised about is how distant people are in the most connected age in human history. >> that's a really good way of putting it. >> in wisconsin where i spent my summers, i spent some high school there, you melt in, you tune ou...