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distinguish themselves from trump they want to use this to elevate their own candidacies and to diminish him in the eyes of the voters. they know a very important slice of their party is so loyal to him and does see this as the former president, obviously, is characterizing it as a vendetta being taken out on him and not just on conservatives in ge general. they have to be careful and tread lightly in making it clear that they are against the kind of conduct that he is accused of or being investigated for. but without belittling him to the point that they are going to lose those people. >> it's a finite group of people or there wouldn't be so many republicans getting in the race. there's certainly some suspicion about whether trump is going to be able to ride this all the way to a 2024 nomination, or you wouldn't have this many guys jumping in. last night on social media, asaw someone say something, you can't ride two horses with one saddle. they didn't use the word saddle.