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What are your thoughts about the hearings in general? obviously they are doing a week-long fbi investigation. general thoughts on this, madison, as a lawyer? >> i think lindsey graham really did say it best when he said you want a fair process, you came to the wrong town at the wrong time my friend. nothing about this has been fair. wouldn't be able to get a search warrant or arrest warrant for something like that. we have an fbi investigation. taxpayer money is funding that. we're not going to have any more information in a week. i would bet my life on that. they are saying they are going to ...

Should live your life with the expectation that you are going to commit a homicide. greg: i do. >> i think that's probably a bad thing. but i think that this is kind of a ridiculous story; right? i mean, only in a society where we're this driven by identity politics that something like this ever even happen in the first place. greg: i have theories though, madison, do you think he has a case? >> it's tough. i don't think he's going to win. greg: no? >> the one thing i would like to point out here though is the fact that if everyone and everything were treated equally in this country by the sam...

[laughter] >> they are always a little cold. i always have to wear socks under my sandals. greg: terrible. >> and people say kat why don't owe just wear tennis shoes? well, because then i have to untie them and take them off because of, you know, the tsa infringing upon my rights every time i want to travel. greg: right. >> and i'm 29. i'm too old to have the energy to do that already. greg: that's too bad. >> this is worse than watching old yeller hearing her problems. i'm crying teas from my heart. -- i'm crying tears from my heart. >> it is chilly. i feel as though i'm in a tundra. >> you w...

And what he said, and i totally believed him. greg: yeah. >> at this point you can't prove it. you can't know. so all you can do then is evaluate all the other evidence. greg: right. >> when you evaluate all the other evidence, no rational person can come down on any decisions but that they didn't prove their case. greg: right. >> one thing i would say that's different today and i think it is a very good thing in america, that is different today, 30 years ago -- or 20 years ago, bill clinton would have sent his war dogs out to call her trailer trash and say that oh yeah you can bring -- you kn...

In somebody else's. >> i don't trust my memory from this morning. greg: neither do i. >> much less last week. greg: i had to tell you to put on pants. >> and i don't even do any drugs anymore. greg: yeah. anymore. it's been three weeks. [laughter] >> but no, i would say actually i did change my mind listening to the testimony. going in, i thought that dr. ford was a political -- i thought she was politically motivated. i thought she was trying to take out this guy and doing everything that she could to just -- because you know, the first time she ever uttered his name to anybody was after he h...