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Certain extent now to stop abortions at 15 weeks because of the viability standard. they believe the bar has now subsequently moved. here's what she had to say about that. >> we believe that the viability standard and not just we, but most people believe the viability standard doesn't make any sense in terms of whether a baby yet to be born lives or dies. so the viability around roe versus wade was at about like 28 weeks, and so for every decade it's changed about a week. somewhere around like 22, 23, somewhere around there. so again, 15 weeks is a conscious decision to place it before viabili...

Mississippi has a six-week plan it's using to defend the 15-week plan. >> i know, but i'd like to focus on the 15-week ban. that's not a dramatic departure from viability. it is the standard that the vast majority of other countries have. when you get to the viability standard, we share that standard with the people's republic of china and north korea. and i don't think you have to be in favor of looking to international law to set our constitutional standards to be concerned if those are your -- share that particular time period. >> i think there's two questions there, your honor. if i may, f...

Are people under the constitution. and i think the only thing that justice kavanaugh got right and it's in that quote that you played earlier is the idea that you have to pick. and the reason you should pick women is because they are people under the constitution and embryos and fetuses are not. so in terms of changing this landscape from the viability standard, which is the only principled gestational line and that's because it's the only line that accounts for the fact, the person in whom the relationship between the embryo or fetus and the person in whom it lives. to pick 15 weeks, there's ...

It's happening here on the ground in front of the supreme court. you're just a little ways away from me. if you can switch around this way, and i just want hallie and the viewers to be able to see. there's a dividing line, hallie, between folks that are protesting in favor of abortion rights and then folks that are protesting against abortion rights. literally, there's a barrier between them with two separate rallies going on. i have to close one ear to hear what's happening on this side and then open up the other ear to hear what's happening on the other side, and the argument is across the b...

0 say. >> really? >> yeah. they used to be more polite. i have to say, the court over the last few years has gotten a bit more sharp in their questioning. and even sometimes to each other, and making digs at each other. that's an unfortunate trend. but i think for the most part, you'll hear a respectful discussion of the issues between the advocates and the court. maybe the most important thing to think about is when the justices are asking a question, they're not necessarily wanting to hear the answer from the advocate. they're making a point to one of the other justices. and so you as the ad...