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Politics, you care about the issue that you near and dear to your heart and to the heart of your members. what about that political question as we sit and wait for the supreme court to rule? >> certainly politics has led to this place. we had to have a senate and president that would nominate a senate that would confirm justices that would hear a case just like this that would test the viability question. in my opinion and the opinion of jurists i speak with every day there is high probability roe would be overturned. to say yes to the question any pre-viability limit constitutional is to evis...

Of the court's impending decision? ~ . decision? well, what it will likely do. _ decision? well, what it will likely do. if— decision? well, what it will likely do, if it _ decision? well, what it will likely do, if it rules - decision? well, what it will likely do, if it rules in - likely do, if it rules in favour of mississippi, and essentially upholds the law that would prohibit abortion after 15 weeks, it will, the signal to at least 22 other states, but they also can pass laws that will inhibit abortion for possibly less than 15 months. 12 months, ten months. because ultimately what mis...

Possibility. you know, justice roberts i think although he's no longer kind of representative of the center of the court, i think is still one to watch. the chief justice mentioned yesterday he was focused on this 15-week ban in mississippi. it seemed to me if you look at the tea leaves that what we can very well see is this incremental approach here, which is upholding the mississippi ban and saying roe versus wade is not overturned but we're going to instead of using this viability test we're going to use some other test and 15 weeks is okay. but then the next step beyond that and the one th...

News, and it's, again, pretty overwhelming. that one says 60% uphold, 27% overturn. everything i've seen over the years, overturning is one-third americans are there. i don't see the roberts court move away from the viability test. that's a pretty radical jump. i think they'll slowly but surely evolve in that direction, but right now, what do you think, jonathan? >> yeah, the roberts court tends to avoid the radical jumps. i think the three new justices appointed by former president trump, kavanaugh, amy coney barrett, and gorsuch, will be people listening today to oral arguments, which are no...