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It was to talk about immigration reform but he took a few questions on this gun control legislation. i'm going to play what senator rubio said and what joe scarborough said this morning on his program in reaction. let me play both back to back. >> the reason why we are doing this, we are spending all of our time talking about background checks as if somehow criminals will no longer get guns because they have to underago background check. we're lying to people. that isn't true. we have a violence problem in america. guns are what people are using but violence is the problem and no one is having...

Meaningful reform. the final bill is also likely to include more funding for school security and heightened gun trafficking restrictions. on sunday senator rubio said the bill will not make it any harder for criminals to get guns. actually, he tried to shift the debate altogether. they are highly ineffective in terms of accomplishing the following goal, and that is to protect the right of law abiding citizens to possess weapons which the second amendment guarantees and they're ineffective in keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals. if the reason why we're doing this, in essence ...

In order to shore up certain loopholes. how is it that those additional checks would undermine the second amendment? >> well, first of all, we have, for example, concealed weapons permits across the country. i have one. these are people that are preapproved in terms of getting concealed weapons permit. perhaps there's a way to accommodate that across all 50 states where concealed weapons permit is treated as a de facto background check. ultimately the reason we are doing this, in essence we are spending all of our time talking about background checks as if criminals will no longer get guns bec...

Was underlined by the governor of maine aggressively inviting gun makers to come to his state. on sunday, senator marco rubio went on seven or eight shows and said that actually a background check would not make it harder for criminals to get guns. >> they are highly accomplish in protecting the right of law abiding citizens to possess weapons which the second amendment guarantees and constitutional right and if the reason why we are doing this in essence spending our time talking about background checks as somehow criminals no longer get guns because they have to get a gun to go through a bac...

They don't do those things. they either infringe on the right of law-abiding people and do nothing to keep the guns out of the hands of dangerous people. i'm troubled this debate is about guns. it should be violence. violence is the problem, guns are what they're using. we had a kid build a bomb in a dorm room here recently. the point is, the fact of the matter is that we have a violence problem in the united states and we are missing a golden opportunity to have an open, honest, and serious conversation about why it is that we having are these horrific violent act oes curing in our society. b...