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>> if you look at her poll numbers, she has unified erika. but especially -- unified america. because she is the another first woman of color, i think her reported poll numbers are higher and inflated vis-a-vis her actual standing with the american people. jesse: >> when we finally get there we have a responsibility i think to overper form. this is a woman whose own staff told the media that she is constantly going out in if soul crushing criticism of them. they called her a bully.

For us here. the supreme court's going to take the chase of roe stopping abortions at 15 weeks. how do you see that decision going based on what we've seen in this texas case? >> well, we saw in the oral arguments in december that at least five members of the court were ready to allow the mississippi law to stand. i think if you take that feeling alongside justice sotomayor's blistering dissent in this case, you have a really telling portrait. only nine people know exactly what the court is going to do vis-a-vis that mississippi law, and one of those nine people is justice sotomayor. and she w...

Conversations were about, however. i was just told what they were not about. and we're continuing -- we're continuing to report that. but i think the committee really understands how valuable a witness barr could be, particularly if he would testify publicly and talk about what was actually going on in donald trump's head. because we know that he quit in december. he quit before january 6th. but he can sort of talk about the president's state of mind vis-a-vis the election. >> certainly, and obviously his decision finally at that moment to quit in and of itself says a lot about what he thought...

Bully, all i've got to do is be aggressive and america will always back down, then we will get into a fighting war at some point because he will push it until he does. what he has to understand is that he will never know the point at which we say enough is enough. but he's got to have that concern. the other part of this is he's got to understand very clearly that while we never want war, the best way to avoid war is to make very certain that your adversaries understand that you do have the equipment, you have the ability, you have the training, and if you need to, you will stand up for what i...

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