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Matter if it's 2.5 or 3, it's what is in it. what do you see getting cut back? >> the dental vision component for elderly americans could go. i think the community college piece could go. i think those are a couple of visit couple things that come to my mind. >> what about you, ron? >> well, i guess, the logic is less to remove entirely than play with how long they're in place and try to in someways take the most popular items like the child tax credit, universal prek perhaps, some of the health care and child care subsides and phase them out to save money. you can say look, this monthly payme...

Has shown that the progressive wing of the party is really flexing its muscles but i'm not really sure that's where most americans are. and if the package is too big and -- and too broad, i think that's problematic for 2022 but i think ron brownstein has a smart idea and democrats ought to listen to that advice. >> yeah. so what do you think -- what kinds of things are you expecting to see cut back to get to the price tag, mark? because you said, you know, it doesn't matter if it's 2.5 or 3, it's what's in it. so what do you see getting cut back? >> i think the -- the dental/vision component f...