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Hamilton and teddy roosevelt, putting a historical thing on it. >> and hoping the american public doesn't know their history very well. i don't think anybody who is a conservative doesn't want to the re-elect a modern day version of teddy roosevelt. >> is that possible in this race? >> i don't think so. he is always going to be compared to romney, they both have problems. romney says he should raise taxes on the wealthy. i don't think it will be a big problem for him, but i do think he will be able to shrug it off, going with the vision thing. >> we'll see. thanks. when we come back. saying go...

I can just run out the clock. he is going to have to take the fight to newt. the problem that he is facing against gingrich is with george h.w. walker bush called the vision thing. gingrich is better and creating a vision, kind of an exciting change. whereas romney is a techno accurate. data, data, data. he wants to change everything and rearrange it and make it work. i think people are more excited about the vision sense. >> romney has to offer a vision of his own, or are you saying that romney needs to attack gingrich and find a way to knock him down and say, no, he is not the real conservat...

What does it have to go to for people to say, we'll keep this guy? >> president obama's going to be forced to break a historical precedent to win a second term. we know that there's not a credible economist in the country who says the unemployment rate is going to be low enough to be back in that range for presidents to traditionally win. that's not to say he can't win, but it means he needs to make his opponent acceptable and he needs to make the country feel like we're at least back on the right track. and now, of course, by three to one, americans say we're on the wrong track. that's the nu...

Forced to break a historical precedent to win a second term. we know that there's not a credible economist in the country who says the unemployment rate is going to be low enough to be back in that range for presidents to traditionally win. that's not to say he can't win, but it means he needs to make his opponent acceptable and he needs to make the country feel like we're at least back on the right track. and now, of course, by three to one, americans say we're on the wrong track. that's the number -- >> this sunday, "meet the press" day, nate silver says in "the new york times" that if we ha...

the governor says, well, i don't have a definitive answer because he's never seen my birth certificate. the interviewer points out this is an odd answer, but you, you've seen his. which governor perry reports, i don't know. have i? you don't believe what's been released? i don't know. i had dinner with donald trump the other night. the governor said, and i quote, i don't have any idea. it doesn't matter. he's the president of the united states. he's elected. it's a distractive issue. keeping them honest, if it's such a distractive issue to use governor perry's own words, then why bri...