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Democrats. there were genuine ticket splitters. >> before you call it the good old days. before people say people were tougher on barack obama because he was black. jerry fallwell, the main player in evangelical politics accused bill clinton publicly of murder. >> i'm aware. >> that was pretty bad. >> but i'm not talking about, when i talk about the polarization thing, i'm not talking about the vitriol level, a lot on clinton, bush, on obama, different kinds but just the degree to which the polarization is a different phenomenon whereby, no longer room for people in america who vote for both p...

Other big issues that on both sides where people, you know, extremes issued threats? >> that's fine. then you should -- on the other side when it happens on the other side. >> bret: i understand. >> it's really important for leaders of the opposition of the bill to come out very clearly and separate themselves and state clearly that. >> bret: they did. >> they did and they need to continue to do it? >> they shouldn't continue. they did. they did it once and that should be the end. he said we don't approve of it. that's it. if you continue to beat it up, it continues to be a story and it's coun...

Extremes issued threats? >> that's fine. then you should -- on the other side when it happens on the other side. >> bret: i understand. >> it's really important for leaders of the opposition of the bill to come out very clearly and separate themselves and state clearly that. >> bret: they did. >> they did and they need to continue to do it? >> they shouldn't continue. they did. they did it once and that should be the end. he said we don't approve of it. that's it. if you continue to beat it up, it continues to be a story and it's counter productive. the people who are making threats, shouldn't...