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Either australia turns out to be reveals itself to be a fraud, brian, or they reinforce that they're, in fact, tyrants. i don't know what they pick a or b but it's a no win option for australia. >> brian: how about they evolve as a country and doing their china impersonation and start letting their people live. what i have been seeing out of australia is absolutely nuts. now, the "new york times" is all pro-australia and clamp down crack down quote: the australian body force are doing what sports bodies fail to do say no. if they don't like the unvaccinated get a shot like many. a privilege mi...

>> bill: who does putin respect? who has his ear? >> peter the great. stalin, the past. that's what he's looking for. >> bill: there's nobody in moscow that says, hey mr. president, may be we ought to think about a or b? >> i think putin is being bled. he'll be bled for years. it will take years. may be the oligarchs will hurt. may be the russian people will rise up. i think for me, ukraine is a done deal. it's flattened. they lost. the next story i think is russia. the russian people are going to rise up and throw this guy out. >> julie: do you foresee a coup? is it too late? >> you know what...

Last 10 months. our voter analysis saw this, direction of the country, we found 2/3 believe we're on the wrong track here. so on tuesday was youngkin and mccauliffe on the ballot or was joe biden and the progressive movement in washington on the ballot, which one was it, a or b? >> i think it was both. it is hard to win when your party is sitting there and everybody says oh that party is going the wrong way. then mccauliffe was clear. i think he was so clear the democrats really don't believe parents should be involved in schools. that was an eye opener for parents. parents believe these are t...

The next five, ten, 50, 100 years to be great but i'm keenly aware that it hangs in the balance and it will be determined at the ballot box next year. mark: a or b, at least it starts this next election and it's that important? >> i think it's important that were told each election is a huge turning point but this is a difficult one and it's hard for some of my friends who think themselves of never trump and they were critical and were not really supporters of president trump either but in the end we have to ask ourselves what the choice is what is the alternative? it's all very well to say yo...

The most important point is that this is not -- this notion about a or b is fine, yes. but we are in a campaign you have limited time and limited money, the question is what are you prioritizing? and that is my argument. the democrats prioritized to the exclusion voters of color and exclusive focus with hundreds of millions of dlars going after the white working class and conservative vote to no positive outcomes. >> i've been looking forward to this conversation for sometime and it did not disappoint. thank you both. >> thank you. take a look at this paper. i know it looks like another grad...