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To cancel his summit in helsinki with Vladimir Putin on monday in the face of this, new charges brought by the Department Of Justice. Whats your take on this . I agree, he never should have taken the meeting to begin with. I mean we have no idea what he would hope to gain from this. What we know quite clearly, these were not lowlevel operatives, ali, who were indicted. These are highlevel people who worked very closely with the Senior Leadership in russia. We know putin knew this. Donald trump is only enabling Vladimir Putin by coming to this meeting, by participating in this meeting. If he do...

Vladimir putin on monday, he should cancel that meeting. but look, these -- i almost think the white house probably knew that this indictment -- these indictments were coming down and that's why they set up the meeting. but again, i guess if there's a little vindication here for those of us who were victims of being hacked, for those of us who, you know, had to figure out how to still run a campaign while also dealing with, you know, an e-mail dump every single day of john podesta's e-mails and other campaigns e-mails, but again this is getting us one step closer to figuring out what happened....

>> harris: what? 's before he had not a crime. >> kevin: is more of an a la branch into the trump administration. i do not believe for a second that anything more is going to come out of this that already had. >> harris: does it behoove the president to let it play out? >> kevin: in the short answer, yes. i think that is what donald trump did. everybody gets mad when mueller started to stack the deck with hillary clinton supporters and they are upset that president trump did not say anything for it he is letting them stack the deck. if you're not guilty, stack the deck. does the investigation ...

Investigates, we learned the russian government reached out to the trump campaign. the the trump campaign. the chum campaign met with the russian government. they were not fully forthcoming about those meetings but i'm not saying there was collusion. we have learned more about the trump campaign interactions they are not done with their investigation part for every american who cares about russia interference in our election, there is no harm in letting this investigation play out fully and making sure we run down every single lead. >> katie: you are correct. if americans are concerned, which ...

>> thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. and if you want more from the "huffington post," who has invested wonderfully in the journalism around this problem, paul and his colleagues at "the huffington post" on the front of their website today has a whole stack of reporting on the super pacs and the secret money in politics. more details on that renee ellmers story and the vote changing. plus, if you like the videos that you've seen here on the show, we have them posted as blogs on our website, dylanratigan.com. it is the full place for mad as hell: get money out of coverage, including that to...