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>> to our viewers note the passion, this is the stuff of 11:47 am, not pm, and were so appreciative of these guests, juanita i can give you all of 60 seconds for this follow-up, and you touched on this, a glancing blow on this topic. the voters of black and brown communities that the democrats are counting on, if all also fails, if lawsuits are in the federal courts for years to come there are still going to count on the core voters to get to the polls no matter what, and try to embarrass the republicans at their own game. >> but bryant, the reality still remains, you cannot out organized syst...

During the health care debate the critical turning point was when the nuns came out and they said, you know, health care is important. there are a lot of americans who really are on the knife's edge, ed. they are working class folks. they may actually be antiabortion. they may be concerned about gay rights, something like that. but there's another side. there are these moral sides of how we treat the poor and when the catholic bishops, when nuns and others step forward and say, you know, this dialogue about cutting medicare, cutting medicaid is going to threaten the least among us, that resona...

Said, you know, health care is important. there are a lot of americans who really are on the knife's edge, ed. they are working class folks. they may actually be antiabortion. they may be concerned about gay rights, something like that. but there's another side. there are these moral sides of how we treat the poor and when the catholic bishops, when nuns and others step forward and say, you know, this dialogue about cutting medicare, cutting medicaid is going to threaten the least among us, that resonates beyond just circles into all sorts of voting communities. >> and the fact of the matter i...