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Why is the nra so successful? why do they have so much money? the gop, as i go down the line name after name, they take loads of money from the nra. why is this our country? >> they take a lot of money from the nra, but that money primarily comes from grassroots donors. so while gun companies are putting a lot of money into the nra, the majority is from mom and pop donors who support gun rights. so you have an incredibly powerful voting constituency that their lobby is essentially the most effective grassroots lobby in the country. the nra was loyal early to donald trump. he, as a manhattanite...

To were trying to convince people they were moderates. so that they do not succeed no matter which ideology. >> i do think they want to rebrand. they want a more moderate image. but they do have this challenge. and the reason nancy pelosi is still the leader and public face is that she is the greatest fundraiser and political history outside of presidential campaigns. more than $500 million every year. she has pulled money out of citizens desk and la and san francisco. are they really going to turn away from that funding constituency more toward a voting constituency? and that is not an easy t...

They try to use. >> i think they do want to rebrand, a more moderate image but they do have the challenge and the reason nancy pelosi is still the leader in the public face is she's the greatest fundraiser in political history outside of presidential candidates, she has pulled money in cities like this, la and san francisco. so are they really going to turn away from that funding constituency more toward a voting constituency? and that's not an easy thing to do. >> well, dan, one point is this may stop the obstructionism, at least the democrats seem to realize that just being obstructionist, h...

Debate policy. when you are a governor you actually make laws that affect people's lives. back to immigration, i think rubio, while this may be a difficult burden to carry in a primary, i think what makes him so threatening to hillary clinton is his effort -- he did not succeed, but having made the effort on comprehensive immigration reform, sets him apart in a stunningly good way for a general election. he might be -- he and jeb bush are probably the only people left in the republican field who wouldn't offend a large and vital and important part of the republican party. george bush got 44% o...

Fiorina say people are ready fo. someone from the business world to take office. >> chairman and author of "cold hard truths on family, kids, money." you may see him on "shark tank." thanks for being with us. >> what it does tell us, and this is critical. i've never seen dialogues start august and september ever before. this is unique. trump has done that. what it does tell me if i'm betting -- i look at politicians like stocks. they go up and down. when they have momentum they're moving up the market. that's happening with trump thousand. here's the dialogue i'm shocked about. if you asked vo...