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Look at what the hearing said today in terms of these individuals. most of them who've been in service in the intel community for decades, not just with this administration. for decades. some that were appointed by the prior administration and president bush. this was the considered opinion of all the intelligence professionals. >> bret: let me ask you this. there -- they have said there is not evidence that there was hacking of actual, any changes in votes. do you believe that somehow they hacking changed votes or change the outcome of the election in any way where your party is somewhat sayi...

Voting files, right, which is not true, there's no evidence of that whatsoever, that is not what's on the table. do you think -- there's legitimate concern from the trump folks, from others that democrats are playing this up too much? it is an attempt to delegitimize and they're ramping up the rhetoric to an unhealthy level? >> what really worries me is the trump camp's perception that this is somehow just a part of american partisan politics. we used to have this saying we used all the time, in this country, which was politics stops at the water's edge. and the reason that we did that is beca...

Try to in any way act as though these revelations make his victory any less legitimate and if anything -- >> i think -- >> if anything, what was revealed revealed the true nature of the opposition he was running against. >> i do think the statement of the president was pretty narrowly tailored. steve cortes. i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. joining me, missouri secretary of state, 2016 democratic senate candidate, jason candor. your reaction to today's events. >> well, it's pretty upsetting when it turns out that the president-elect is either not sure how computers work, or is just...

Operation, which they didn't have. they took a page from your playbook and decided to start working on that four years ago, which they are doing. >> but the public polling still doesn't views the voting files. >> exactly, exactly. >> nia, the early polling in north carolina ends tomorrow. based on all the information we have, democrats are ahead in north carolina right now, at least according to registration. african-american turnout, though, is down from 2012. so is north carolina absolutely a must-win for hillary clinton? >> it isn't, but they sure would like to win it because if they win th...