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Have been easy for the white house to say, what she had said to reporters off the report was untrue and ridiculous and there was no reason to get rid of her. instead, they pretended or maybe it is true. they reacted as if it were true and pushed her out. i think there was probably something else going on which is a lot of people had their knives out for her. >> hanna, do you agree with that? >> i do. i think jonathan is spot on there. it is hard to know what the president is thinking. it seems like it came out after the fact. that's not how anybody likes to have news delivered. >> you are repo...

Allow new faces into the party. there was a lot of in fighting there. this is where a lot of this started. the president trump inserted himself into that. it kind of in a way blew up in his face. democrats in congress at that point pelosi and the so-called squad, they were divided at that point. now he united them in a way against them. this is kind of blown up in his face and not in a good way and now we see that he obviously does not want these in the headlines ahead of 2020 republicans up for reelection more so. don't want this headlines ahead of 2020. i may play well with part of his base....

Look, what presidents say matters. it matters. when we stay silent, our silence is complicit. that's what i learned. their silence is complicit. i promise you, if i get elected president, i will be a president who stands against racism, who forces inclusion and intolerance everywhere in our society, our institutions, our voting groups and in our hearts. it matters what we say. it's important to stand by and start by recognizing black, hispanic, asian american workers, native american workers in communities of color all across the nation. when the atlanta washington women's strike in 1880, boyc...

>> right. >> they need to make sure they don't get obliterated in places like metropolitan detroit. that's someone where the targeting is likely to be. maricopa county in arizona. there's softness in the arizona polling. they need to make sure they don't get completely wiped out in the suburbs among women, as what happened in the midterm elections in 2018. they need to increase their floor among these voting groups. >> jonathan, we talked about this earlier in the show, and axios is looking at kamala harris' abortion plan, and how it separates her from other 2020 candidates. >> this is the mos...

Appeal to those kinds of voting groups, which basically you cannot win elections without. at least in the house map. you could argue, looking at the results from these midterms, that you can still win senate races in places -- in red states where there are large, rural communities that offset those losses. as a strategy going forward, as a party, if they sentence themselves to only being able to win those places, they are not going to be able to be successful and i think that has sunk in. >> you mentioned you don't know does the president get it. we know he did something remarkable, public sco...