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And there are people who will say, hey, look, i remember when everyone was saying that the shutdown was going to be the deathnell of the republican party in 2014. that didn't work. and there's another theory that says, no, this kind of rhetoric does lasting harm among voting groups. they hear it and it stays with them. which of those, do you think, is a more accurate description. >> well, it depends on the situation. in the case of the shutdown, you know, the thing that sort of saved the republican party in 2014 was that the sort of specter of obamacare was so bad, and the president was so unp...

And it's a really bad general election strategy. >> you know, there's two ways of thinking about this. one is that it's so early, all this stuff will be a distant memory by the time the general election sets in. and there are people who will say, hey, look, i remember when everyone was saying that the shutdown was going to be the deathnell of the republican party in 2014. that didn't work. and there's another theory that says, no, this kind of rhetoric does lasting harm among voting groups. they hear it and it stays with them. which of those, do you think, is a more accurate description. >> we...

Worked on some gubernatorial efforts, that ended in rather historic win, 60%, winning among non-traditional voting groups, women, blacks hispanicss and. chris christie will be much more formidable than the conventional wisdom put it. >> why? >> he is a genuine guy. he is ought thin tick, people like at the end of the day especially republican primary voters that will tell them like it is. >> that is campaign slogan. >> that is something he clearly done. am i going to pretend he is in as good a shape as couple years ago absolutely not. he will need to work towards rehabilitation and he can. >> ...

Brainer. but michele nunn is running very strong in a lot of polls she's ahead of everyone, except for maybe david per dur but they flip back and forth. republicans down here in georgia have been saying we got to make sure we get the right person to go up against michele nunn in november, hence the reason why there was a lot of hand wringing when paul broun appeared to be the early front runner. at the moment, sean, it looks like people who could cross over a number of different voting groups are out in the lead. jack kingston district is 28% african-american and he wins by a considerable marg...

>> sure. yes, i was. and the reason is that, you know, you have to accept the political world we live in, in the sense that you cannot offer up words like libido, wherever that came from, you don't offer up these sorts of, you know, lobs and set up passes and serves that allow the democrats to spike the ball. i mean, it's not where our party stands. it really isn't even what mike huckabee meant to say. i mean, he had a pretty good message -- and overshadowed by a choice of words that -- it was just a little bit off, that's all. >> why did you invite a guy -- when i think about mike huckabee an...