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spur the justice department to launch a criminal case. >> nobody wants an organized crime prosecution where the d.o.j. lawyers or prosecutors go after foot soldiers and lieutenants but don't go after the people that are ordering the crimes and putting all of the criminal events into motion. so, i agree with that. you know, i think that as a matter of justice it is just wrong to punish the people that are seduced by a criminal mastermind but not the mastermind himself or herself. >> the hearing provided this jaw-dropping account of just how much danger vice president's secret service ...

of dollars of fines. this is not something that's going to happen immediately. the judge has set october 21st as the sentencing date. it will be a few months before we know what sentence is going to be handed down. it's been clear from bannon's attorneys throughout this trial that they do intend to appeal. because these are misdemeanor charges it's very possible that we could see the judge delay any kind of, you know, whether bannon has to serve any kind of sentence until after they go through that appeals process. we just don't know that yet. what we do know is this is a big boost t...

relevant? >> this has been a rapidly developing internal investigation. they had been doing a very rigorous probe, according to a letter sent from the secret service to the house select committee. telling them all of the way thaz were trying to abide by the house select committee's subpoena on july 19th, the secret service told investigators they planned to conduct forensic examinations of available devices that were used by the identified individuals, additional follow-up interviews with the identified users to determine if messages were stored in locations that were not already sea...

wave. within the terms just nine weeks away, i'm talking live to rising democratic star michigan state senator mallory mcmorrow. and later another week, another report of ginni thomas trying to overturn the 2020 election. you might be surprised to know just how -- she seemed to be very passionate about the peaceful transfer of power. i'll do my best introduced pasture need to courage any thomas all of that and more is coming up. and a happy sunday morning to you this labor day weekend. i am kate. even though trump lashing out last night, lashing out at biden in the doj. and revealing...

federal court. the bottom line is, he is toast! there is nothing he can do -- [laughs] >> i was gonna say screwed. there is a consistency problem here. you can say many times, in public, on television, there was all kinds of things in those boxes. i don't know what was in those boxes. so it's very hard to get from -- at and have any idea what was in the boxes, to, i know they planted things. do you agree with that? >> i completely agree. judge dearie is a no nonsense judge. he's not going to take pr statements and say that that has any merit and his court. he is going to say as these...