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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210812 12:19:00

reporter: and i think you can see there why trump has been reluctant to really push this vaccine even though he could take a lot of credit for it because he knows it could alienate a lot of his base. but, look, i think the main take away from all this, whether it s on the election and these lies undermining american democracy, and these lies and conspiracy theories about the vaccine which is damaging people s these lies which are damaging people s health, we have a very serious situation here where people are infected by misinformation. donie o sullivan, i know you look forward to a series of coronavirus tests which you ll no doubt be having to take very, very soon. we appreciate you being with us this morning. as always, really revealing reporting. reporter: thanks, john. so, just ahead, why a new revelation from senator rand paul is raising plenty of eyebrows. and the taliban is overrunning one quarter of afghanistan s provincial capitals in just the course of less than a ....

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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210812 12:27:00

Capital fell to the taliban, the 10th in just the past week. the senior administration official familiar with one u.s. intelligence assessment now says that the capital kabul could fall in the next 30 to 60 days. joining us now is jack murphy. he is the author of murphy s law: my journey from army ranger, green beret . thank you for being with us now. thank you. it seems the administration is surprised by how quickly things have turned south, really bad in afghanistan. but should they have been so surprised once they announced the full departure by the end of august? no, not at all. i mean, this is something that they have been grappling with for years in afghanistan. it s to the point where i think if you asked any marine corps or army private who served in afghanistan, they could have told you that this would have happened. so for this to come as a strategic surprise to the administration, i personally have a difficult time wrapping ....

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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210812 12:28:00

My mind around how that s even possible. jack, i wonder i wonder what it s like. i wonder what it s like for you and all the servicemen and women who have served in afghanistan to watch what is going on, to see provincial capital after provincial capital fall. and i know it is on the mind of so many people is the names of people who died in those areas. yes, my sense from the veterans who fought so hard over there in afghanistan is that they re just heartbroken by this. you know, the thing with afghanistan is that it was a conflict that in the past they confronted as a unit, as a team, with their teammates in the service, in the military. but right now they re out of the military and they are having to answer the question of afghanistan individually for themselves, ask themselves that question. what did it all mean? and i don t think we re anywhere even close to being able to answer that question yet. is there any way to change an ....

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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210812 12:29:00

Outcome that at this point seems inevitable? well, you d have to reverse course completely and essentially re-in vvade afghanistan, go back to what we were doing to maintain the status quo in afghanistan. clearly the administration was not comfortable with that. they decided to pull the plug. i think the american public at large was frustrated with afghanistan. and the decision was made, so now it s a question of watching the country fall apart from afar. i hate to sound jaded, i m sorry. look, it makes sense why you are. you know, when we look at this map, and we see how much of the country has fallen now under taliban control, i think what a lot of people maybe don t realize is that those interpreters that are trying to get out, they re trying to get from those red areas into kabul so that they can get out. and a lot of them won t, right? and it is a dangerous path. what do you think right now about the efforts of the u.s. government to rescue those folks? i think we need to sp ....

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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210812 12:10:00

Take it. it s such good advice. if you need more information, talk to your doctor. saul, we are so happy to be speaking to you. we are so happy that you got a second chance for yourself and your family as well. saul torres and dr. yesenia ramos, thanks to both of you. thank you. up next, the mypillow guy luring people to south dakota promising proof the election was stolen from trump. we ll ask people there how it s going. plus senator rand paul does something he should have done months ago under the law. will it lead to trouble? and a new warning about the taliban s rapid gaines in afghanistan. could kabul be among the next to fall? why choose proven quality sleep from sleep number? ....

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