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They don't carry the same credibility as a statement that's made in court or statement that's made officially recorded or on the record. this would at best be kevin mccarthy's recollection of what trump said, and of course there's a lot of waffle room in a statement like that. there are ways to parse what the word responsibility means. but what i like about these conversations and these tapes, to glenn's point, is that when you take all of them together, they do trend towards showing certain states of mind and that trump was thinking about this, he was weighing what had gone on in a serious wa...

That. >> now, could that bears responsibility line that kevin mccarthy say, have any legal implications down the line? >> so, i wouldn't put too much stalk in that, at least in terms of being evidence that could be brought to play against trump for a couple of reasons. not the least of which that it's a statement made out of court. and although sometimes, and this goes deep into federal evidence law, but sometimes those short of statements that -- party to a lawsuit can still be admitted even though they are out of court. they don't carry the same credibility as a statement that's made in cour...