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For the 1.1 million people who work there, could it be a model for the united states? >> let me ask you this, let's say they do that. the bottom line is, we are in a sub 5% employment world, right? for a lot of the good companies, it is hard to get workers. this now becomes a reason to do something for your workers. if they are getting less expensive health care, co-pays are lower, premiums are lower, costs for having them are lower, in theory, rather than pushing wages up, which we'd like to do, you can say, work for jpmorgan chase, amazon, berkshire hath awah hathaway and you have a better l...

>> neil: but not the benefits of this latest series of tax cuts that republicans are pushing, right? >> no. they're getting -- i think just getting rid of the alternative minimum tax alone is a huge one. i think dropping the corporate rate without any closing of the loop holes. >> neil: let me ask you while i have you here. when you challenged nancy pelosi, you got more votes than you thought you would get. a lot of people are critical of her saying these long in the tooth. do you want to challenge her again for the democratic leadership in the house? >> you know, i'm not focused on that at th...

History of the republic. bigger than jack kennedy's in '61, bigger than reagan's in '86, bringing down middle class taxes, getting jobs back, getting wages up, growing the economy, getting people back to work, protecting families so they can earn more money. on substance, he gets an a. as far as the terrible week played out with this -- with the four servicemen who died and the congresswoman wilson politicizing a conversation the president had with this grieving widow immediately after she knocked people over to get to cnn and other cameras, in order to politicize this, and blast trump, taking...

What the aflcio and what union membership thinks is best for them as far as keeping their wages up, and what the democratic party has been doing by 15 -- for the past 15 or 20 years. it's not an easy decision. but they have got to focus on working class americans and doing whatever it takes to bring wages up for them and that may require john heilemann for them to make some uncomfortable decisions that will actually upset some people in their base. and that's another thing, doesn't this whole thing feel like it was a slogan and a program trotted out that split straight down the middle between ...

Filing more simple, creating more jobs and making the economy better. when it comes to jobs and economic strength you give them a minus. >> i give him an a on that part of the tax-cut. the part i am concerned about are the deficits, that could be a long-term problem for the economy but in the short term he talking progrowth policies, that is what he is prioritizing and that is what voters were looking for, get back to that. 's tax plan will do that. he has to think about how to manage long-term deficits. >> when it comes to confidence in business it is a tie. >> highest in 15 years, consumer c...