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Cautious in our optimism and enthusiasm here because the supreme court is one thing. >> i agree. >> the ballot box is something else. >> i want to talk about that. as threatened at the conservatives get in this country, threatened culturally. racially, generationally, everything. they feel more and more the circle the wagon mentality has taken over. they vote. they vote like bandits. right wingers. conservatives. what happens if the party, if your party is successful in establishing its high ground politically on this issue but you scare the low ground people to the point where they all show u...

>> i agree. >> the ballot box is something else. >> i want to talk about that. as threatened at the conservatives get in this country, threatened culturally. racially, generationally, everything. they feel more and more the circle the wagon mentality has taken over. they vote. they vote like bandits. right wingers. conservatives. what happens if the party, if your party is successful in establishing its high ground politically on this issue but you scare the low ground people to the point where they all show up next time and they win? >> i think the intensity on this issue is actually much mor...