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Perceived but, you know, chairman grassley knows that, you know, anthony kennedy is not sitting by the phone waiting forrer if mission from chairman grassley to announce his resignation. so, you know, i don't think this is about what justice kennedy is going to do, only justice kennedy at the end of the day knows that and is going to be the decider of that. i think this is grassley signaling to everybody else if we do get a retirement announcement from justice kennedy, which he hopes is soon, people are going to want to move and need to move fast, left the midterms become a referendum on the c...

Mcgahn says that -- or there's -- there's a -- okay. there's reporting that don mcgahn knew of, you know, discrepancies with the ex-wives between porter, but he didn't know the full extent of that. so it would be interesting to find out how much people did know in the white house and when they found it out. >> and as you mentioned, as is often the case with domestic abusers, there are two personas. there's the person at home and then there's the person and the face that they present to the world. obviously, rob porter was able to present a different face to the world than he had at home. i w...