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And it also proves this was never, never anything about a budget crisis. it's crystal clear, it was never about money. this was all about destroying unions and going after wage earners. governor walker addressed the prank phone call during a press conference this afternoon. >> the bottom line is the things i said are things i've said publicly all along. the fact of the matter is, people have brought up all sorts of different options. as you saw, if you listened to the tape, we put that down. we said we've had a civil discourse. my greatest fear over the weekend is when we had the abundance on ...

From whom he thinks is his buddy, david koch, you know. >> well, this is proof positive that the republicans think that no government is good government. and they're on record saying that the state government -- >> well, i would say lousy government. there's a famous saying that i write about a lot in the wrecking crew. it was famous in the 1920s. which is, the best public servant is the worst one. okay? this is something that they used to say back then, the best public servant is the worst one. you only want lousy people in government. because if government is good, if government delivers goo...

Lacks the integrity -- i really wonder, where was he when his dad was preaching. >> good question. senator, great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> senator lena taylor us with here on "the ed show." when the boss calls, you better answer. a possible ethics violation by walker during the prank call. and the people of wisconsin react to being gamed by their governor. in tonight's takedown, bill o'reilly on fairness? >> we're fair on this broadcast. jeff smith is fair. most of our day anchors are as well. >> bill, you left a few people out. th...

This affects our country. >> do you think the public has turned on teachers? like the governor said? >> no. our public is more resolute than ever. and scott walker doesn't know who the public is. he needs to listen to the firefighters, he needs to listen to the police officers, he needs to listen to the nurses and the people who collect his garbage. that's his public. he needs to listen to the senators and the assembly people who are representing us. and he won't talk to him. that's his public. >> kevin sherry, what was your response to the tape today? >> well, thanks for having us, first, ed....

Wisconsin. these 34 state-run plants would give them an energy monopoly. does that bother you? through a spokesman, the koch industries have denied interest in the plans. but remember, koch brothers gave scott walker $43,000 for his campaign, plus another $1 million to the republican governors association, which in turn spent millions of dollars attacking walker's opponent. since the bill allows the sale to have it at walker's whim, we won't know if he does a favor for the kochs until the money changes hands. joining me tonight is thomas frank, a columnist for harper's magazine and author of t...