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Said there just a short time ago. what are your sources telling you, though? >> that the president is telling people that he does intend to sign this bill. that's according to two people who have spoken to the president. they are also saying that the president is making clear privately what we just heard from sarah sanders. he's not happen, but he also understands now from experience the perils of a government shutdown. we are up against it and if and when this bill comes to his desk, he is going to have to sign it. that is what he is saying, at least has been over the past 24 hours privately ...

That might just be a statement of reality. you don't know what the president is going to do until he does it. does that make it harder for republicans to sign on? >> i don't think so. there is no appetite -- and i've talked to democrats and republicans both houses -- there's no appetite for a shutdown. we want to keep the government operating. democrats and republicans alike from the most conservative to the most pregnantive. >> all of the reporting is that the president is likely not going to go the route of declaring a national emergency to get more money with the wall. >> right. >> with tha...

Fence was used that wasn't secure enough? in many places it wasn't. it was redoing those old walls or fences and that was not acceptable at all. the fence that the president talked about in his state of the union message is the fence we need. call it a wall, call it a fence, but you can't drive through it, you can't cut through it, you can't blow it up. it has technology that allows the border patrol to get there in time to stop people from crossing the wall. so we wanted language in there that made sure those issues were considered and we got the miles we needed. then we had the issue about i...

Taken into custody because we had no place to put them. we disagreed with that and we fought it out and we got what we wanted on the i.c.e. and on the numbers and no cap. for that, we gave up some miles. >> congresswoman, what is your reaction to this? it's kind of an ongoing threat or promise from the president that he wants more money for what he calls a wall. and he is prepared to and they're drawing up plans to go around congress even after this deal, go around congress to get that money. >> the president had been very, very clear from the time he was campaigning, we need a wall, we need a...

And local communities are gearing up to file a lawsuit that the president is using a sham emergency to override the constitutional authority of congress to appropriate money. guaranteed lawsuit, guaranteed that some court is going to say, yep, you're right, we're going to stop the president. >> that is if he would go the route of declaring an emergency declaration. >> yes. >> there's not route they could go which is by finding pots of money by combing through the law, finding pots of money to put toward the wall. even if your big was taken up and passed and signed by the president, fellow demo...