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I will tell you, 63% of independent voters say they do not support a national emergency declaration to get the wall built and maybe he's consolidated his base a little bit more after the government has reopened for a few weeks. so again, statistically hard to read anything sbinto it, but the might be some of the reasons. >> just back to the president's interview, the sit-down he did with margaret bren and was asked about impeachment. here it was. >> are you prepared for an attempt to impeeach you? >> the only way they can win because they can't win the election is to bring out the artificial w...

On one side, you've got americans that according to polls, most americans, don't think a wall is necessary, and you've got his conservative base, the commentators he listens to, and then he gets called names when he doesn't stand up for them and get this wall built. >> yes. he's in a difficult spot and he's put himself into this position, of course, by making so much out of that wall. remember his base isn't benefitting from the government shutdown and arguably many of the people stand to lose benefits and lose economically if there is delay in the delivery of government services. and the pres...

Use a national emergency to get the wall built and fulfill his campaign promise. i don't know if the intelligence officials testified to this today, but it's safe to thirng it's sort of a cause for concern elsewhere around the world, and what you have in president trump is a commander in chief who is focused some on the political base trying to keep it together, and announcing the emergency declaration which could come any day now. >> phil rucker, frank fagluzzi, thank you. roger stone described the

Wasn't that kind of emblematic for the situation. you have the rig or of office and all their life experience in this testimony today. at the other end of town, we look at the white house silent on this topic that may indeed decide when we wake up tomorrow or overnight tonight to go off in another direction on any one of these fronts. >> that's exactly right, brian. and the other idea that he might use a national emergency to get the wall built and fulfill his campaign promise. i don't know if the intelligence officials testified to this today, but it's safe to thirng it's sort of a cause for ...

Come to an agreement. why the white house is keeping as one of their top options, the president declaring a national emergency and bypassing congress to get this wall built. so that's something they're look ing at right now. we do have a white house press briefing. something we haven't had in a long time coming up here today to see if the press secretary will shed any light on what the president's latest thinking on this is, but right now, it still seems that both sides are dug in. the fact that this committee is a sign of progress, that someone is trying to get somewhere closer to a deal, it ...