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And it's better, much more protective. but it looks better because the walls that they used to build were not very attractive. i actually think that's possibly part of the problem. the real problem is we need something. we have to have a strong barrier. we're building a lot of wall right now as we speak, and we're renovating a lot of wall. and we're getting ready to give out some very big contracts with money that we have on hand and money that comes in. but we will be looking at a national emergency because i don't think anything is going to happen. i think the democrats don't want border sec...

Incredible amount, 30% or something, from the year before. 38,000 people were murdered in mexico. it's one of the most unfortunately unsafe countries in the world. we need a protective barrier for our country, and that doesn't include honduras, who we are not happy with and we're looking very seriously at taking away all funding. and same thing for guatemala and the same thing for el salvador. it's a disgrace what's going on in those countries. for years and years, the united states has paid them hundreds of millions of dollars and they do nothing for us. when the caravan starts in the middle ...

Is that there is a kind of idea logical war happening in the party. the party is being pulled to the left. it has everything to do with a kind of backlash against the set of policies that have in some ways devastated ordinary people. what i think the base of the democratic party is demanding is something radically different. now, that doesn't mean you have to pass an ideological litmus test. it means you can't come to the table with the same old ideas. job training, tax cuts for the middle class, right? we need something more radical. this is why we're hearing talk about metd care for all, the...

$7 billion and offered 1 point something by the senate and i think it varies but you have to be sure the money goes where it is needed, not just build a wall that isn't going to work. >> is that a zero? nothing. no dollars >> i'm saying a wall doesn't work if you want to do something for security, i'm open to different amounts of money >> all right representative titus, thank you so much. hailing from the great state of nevada appreciate your time >> thank you let's bring in john wagner washington post reporter and susan del percio and msnbc contributor. maybe, susan, that encapsulates what ...

All things that democrats support. there is no reason that they should be fighting the president when they know they agree with him. the only reason they don't want to support this is simply because they care more about politics than they do about this country. at some point they've got to make a decision if they are going to put our country first and the people in the country ahead of their own political games. >> i'm glad you brought up the airplane analogy. of course the majority of illegal immigrants, undocumented, come in on overstayed visas. many come in the body of the airplane, not one...